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Post by 07Shelby500 on 10/20/2011, 1:57 pm

I do not believe there is any change in the blower other than the color. Sounds like a pretty good deal.

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Post by Corepuncher on 10/20/2011, 4:26 pm

Hey guys I was thinking of upping my offer to that one guy with the VMP TVS. He also has a Whipple air intake. Is that worth getting compared to our stock (slightly modified) air intake? I currently have airaid filter on res. elim.

EDIT: Nevermind, he's a loon and wont' sell it for hardly anything less than new price.
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Post by Corepuncher on 10/20/2011, 5:26 pm

And by the way, my new tires suck ass. Maybe it's the temperature, I don't know (near 70 today) but it just spins the crap out of them in 1st. What is the consensus best tires I could get for my rears? I have 20" rims though. Tractor tires?
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Post by Shelby10' on 10/20/2011, 9:34 pm

With the temps dropping its hard to find a sticky tire that will hold our torque. I am going to pick up the DWS Continental All season tires....I hear they are better than our Crapyears and good for cold weather.

Any kind of Summer tire (The tires you have I believe are summer only) need the heat for the rubber compound to break down and stick.

Are you wanting tires for the best traction during warm weather, or a tire that work "ok" during most temps?

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Post by Corepuncher on 10/21/2011, 6:41 pm

Is this ROUSH blower as good as the FORD or VMP TVS?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280757139562&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

They only quote 600 hp, while I know the others can give you up to 650. Also they only say 2007-2009, why is that?
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Post by Leonard 95 on 10/21/2011, 7:09 pm

Same blower as tvs just has 3.0 inch pulley on it instead of 2.6.
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Post by Corepuncher on 10/21/2011, 7:40 pm

I'll have to watch this item. I think I would want a smaller pulley though, and my elbow wouldn't match very well since polished.

Still, more polished than not is still cool! If I got this I wonder if I would buy the VMP bigger elbow or just use stock.

Chances are this will get bid up and I won't buy it, but it's fun to pretend.
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Post by shelbyrick on 10/22/2011, 12:37 am

hey RLhay on gt500 has a smoking deal on his takeoff parts,i saw where you pm'd him,you could part out what you dont want out of that deal ,major score!
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Post by Corepuncher on 10/22/2011, 1:07 pm

shelbyrick wrote:hey RLhay on gt500 has a smoking deal on his takeoff parts,i saw where you pm'd him,you could part out what you dont want out of that deal ,major score!

Yes, I saw that but I'm not sure about what parts would be unnecessary for me. Here is the list:

$3500
for the ported TVS,
VMP stock look 2.65 pulley,
VMP large elbow inlet,
C&L cold air intake,
brand new unused K100852 kevlar HD belt (the green one)
AFCO dual pass non-fan heat exchanger,
Kooks X-pipe and
Kooks ceramic coated long tube headers.

Obviously I can't use the heat exchanger. I like the idea of header and x pipe. Anyone know if this xpipe would replace my cats or would those still be there? He is making 680/635 on his dynograph.

Is this C&L cold air intake an UPGRADE to our stock shelby? Or should I try to remove it from the deal?

I wonder if he would take 3000 shipped for everything minus the heat exchanger. What do you guys think is this my big shot lol. I like the fact that the ford TVS is ported and matched with elbow. That makes i much closer to a VMP, if not exact.

How much weight does headers take off?

The other thing is just installing this massive amounts of parts! It would cost me a lot I"m sure. Unless a few of us could get together one day and have a good time. I do not have the necessary tools or a lift to do all this. I know there is a place in OKC that has lift and tool rental, pretty cool place actually.
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Post by Corepuncher on 10/22/2011, 2:00 pm

I am concerned about fitment. Will 2007 kooks headers fit on 2011? What about the other parts? I"m getting mixed signals from many websites, seems that 2007-2009 are always lumped together, why wouldn't they say 2007-2012 if they DID fit?
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Post by shelbyrick on 10/22/2011, 2:27 pm

Dont waste your time on headers, I would sell them. Sell the afco cooler, not sure about your cai I think the late model shelby intakes are pretty good, will do some checking,the headers should bring 800-1000, afco couple hundred, you will want the x pipe help car to breath better, your boost will actually drop a little.
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Post by Corepuncher on 10/22/2011, 4:23 pm

Wow headers are really a waste of time? I was kinda excited about the prospect...

Here is his dyno:



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Post by shelbyrick on 10/22/2011, 4:30 pm

For the amount of money that they cost to the gain you get yes,my car makes 701 rwhp/689 foot pounds of torque and no it does not have headers. They are extremely difficult to install and the gains are minimal. If you want to make over 750 and you are trying to squeeze all you can then go for it,but if you really do your homework you will see s lot of guys with some seriously fast cars have no headers. Shoot ol bj a pm and see what he has to say about it.
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Post by Corepuncher on 10/22/2011, 10:31 pm

Which one do you guys vote for...

Roush TVS:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280757139562?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Or this ported Ford Racing TVS:
http://www.fordgt500.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12335

I'm thinking about bidding on the ebay one but then again I like the ported TVS with bigger elbow AND smaller pulley. Roush one looks cool lol.

Or, I can get a brand new VMP setup for 3199 shipped.
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Post by Psycho Bob on 10/23/2011, 2:21 am

i personally would want the headers. sure you don't have to have them to make good numbers, but why sell them if you may decide later you want a little more. anything that lets it breath better is always good, but not a must.

i buy alot of used parts for a reason. because i can generally get them for 50-75% of the cost of new. think about that before you sell them.

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Post by Corepuncher on 10/23/2011, 9:14 am

Just looking at those three different blowers, are they literally the same exact item as far as insides and thus power produced? Aside from the porting differences.
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Post by Psycho Bob on 10/23/2011, 9:39 am

i'd take the ford racing one. comes with so much more than the roush one. that and it doesn't say roush on it. would be sweet to take it and have it painted nice and pretty before the install. matching sc'er to your car

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Post by Corepuncher on 10/23/2011, 1:47 pm

I agree the other parts are definitely needed (like elbow, pulley).

But I was talking hypothetically, if it was supercharger only, and lets say they are both the same price....polished Roush or ported Ford Racing?

The Roush is literally 100% unused. Brand new.

I'm trying to determine what my maximum bid will be if I decide to bid. I know the guy with the ford one took the emblem off...so maybe I can take it off the roush as well.

Roush = brand new, polished, but unported.
Ford = used, but ported
VMP = kick ass but just plain expensive.

BTW, I listed my clutch I bought for 1250 on eBay and already have someone kinda interested in it LOL. But...do you think I will NEED that clutch if I end up dynoing 650+ ? Maybe I should keep it?
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Post by Psycho Bob on 10/23/2011, 3:51 pm

i'm using a used sc'er. there's nothing wrong with used as long as you know where it's been. just always make sure you have in writing (pm's emails ect) what exactly you're getting and pictures to back it up. this way you have a means to get your money back IF the product comes and isn't as described or is damaged. that said i've never received parts that weren't as they were described. if someone is selling check their history whether it be a forum sale or ebay.

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Post by Corepuncher on 10/24/2011, 10:09 pm

Ok, I offered the guy $2500 for the following:

2009 Model Ford Racing TVS + VMP Elbow POSI PORTED!
2.65" Pulley + Idler
C&L CAI
Extra belt

Fingers crossed. I decided the headers and x pipe were just too much for my budget right now...but I thought about offering him 3250. Well, at least this minute it's what I think...lol.
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Post by Shelby10' on 10/25/2011, 2:07 am

Hope you get it Ryan, I think you will be happy with that setup

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Post by Corepuncher on 10/29/2011, 2:38 pm

Well, he sold the headers and exhaust, and I"m kinda happy about that because it was gonna be a whole lot more expense.

Just offered him $2500 for the Ford TVS (ported) + VMP Elbow + 2.65 pulley/idler and extra belt.

FINGERS CROSSED!!! He actually told me 2800 for all that plus the Afco (non fan ) HE and the C&L CAI. Should I just buy it all and sell those two items? I just don't think that air intake works from an '09 to an 11.
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Post by Corepuncher on 11/7/2011, 11:45 pm

Well, that guy selling the parts was acting weird, and not communicating well, so I said screw it.

Instead, I found a great deal. A brand new in box FRPP TVS for 2725 shipped. Then I found a VMP elbow for 170 shipped used. Then add Jon Lund tune and pulley/idler and it adds up to about 3150 total. Not too bad I don't think. I can always mess with exhaust at a later time if needed.

Tomorrow, I'm getting my new tires put on . I found a ever so slightly used set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports...315/35R20 for rears, 540 shipped (usually over 700) and go two brand new ones for front for 599 shipped. These tires are supposedly the shiznit. We shall see. Worst case they don't fit my wheel well well...so I might have to cut out that metal hangar piece in there. We shall see...just eyeballing there appears to be room. But man, these tires are HUGE! They are a full 1" taller sidewall...but I think it will help get a grip with the tremendous torque I will not have. Can't wait!

I also have my MGW shifter (got for 320 shipped, New in box). I love used parts!!!

I really want to do some cruising around with some of you guys. Maybe harass a few corvettes or something. What do ya say? Plus I think it would be fun for my wife to come along, she needs to get out more since at home so much.
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Post by Psycho Bob on 11/8/2011, 8:36 am

sounds awesome. definitely good to back out of a purchase if the seller isn't communicating. never a good sign.


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Post by BASixxer on 11/8/2011, 9:46 am

damn, she is coming along!
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Post by Corepuncher on 11/8/2011, 3:14 pm

yeah...but now I have to get all this stuff installed! That shifter looks to be a B without a lift, but not sure.
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Post by BASixxer on 11/8/2011, 3:21 pm

Not sure how the new ones work, but the SNs you just pull the console and the old one comes out and new one goes in. about 45 minutes of work.
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Post by 07Shelby500 on 11/8/2011, 4:05 pm

Can be done without a lift but will be difficult. Its not just a matter of pulling the console.

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Post by BASixxer on 11/8/2011, 4:09 pm

Oh so it did change with the S197?
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Post by BASixxer on 11/8/2011, 4:11 pm

Was looking at pictures and the 2005-2010 trans uses this style:



But everything I see for the 11-12 is that it went back to the old style:



May just be the reference images. Do the 11-12 GT500s use the same transmission as the 5.0s?
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