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Post by Corepuncher on 9/14/2011, 9:34 pm

Well I was gonna just do a pulley kit but I just found someone selling their 2.3L FORD TVS supercharger. Around 2300.00. It looks very clean in pics.

Thoughts? Trying to find blower only price online but I keep seeing complete kits which include stuff I don't need. Does 2300 sound like a good price?
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Post by Leonard 95 on 9/14/2011, 10:20 pm

2300 pretty good, the tvs is a asskicker blower. I made 630rwhp with tvs and 2.6 pulley, stock t/b. The torque is stupid on it, I just didn't like the looks of it cause it looks stock. Most people not in the gt500 know will think its a stock blower.
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Post by Corepuncher on 9/14/2011, 11:16 pm

Since it's a Ford product, does this mean it would not void my warranty like an aftermarket pulley kit would?

I don't mind how it looks...actually, I like the black look over my silver one which comes stock on 2011.
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Post by BMMC1 on 9/14/2011, 11:18 pm

Word. Very nice piece though. Leonard's runs great.

BTW- People that matter don't care what it looks like...

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/14/2011, 11:31 pm

Actually I'm not sure it's for the 2011...the one I"m looking at fits 2010 though...should it fit 2011? On Ford's site, it shows different model numbers for 2010 and 2011. Here is the link to the guy's SC:

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-drivetrain-282/797036-eaton-2-3l-tvs-reische-170-t-stat-amsoil-oil-kit-etc.html
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Post by Leonard 95 on 9/15/2011, 7:14 am

It only voids warranty if it's causing the problem! The only problem I have is traction at 70mph! Just buy it, get Lund tune and be done with it.
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Post by Corepuncher on 9/15/2011, 4:16 pm

hmm, since I found 1 used supecharger...I am now wondering if there is a common place people go to sell their used superchargers...maybe I could even get a better one at a good price?

The 2.3L TVS seems to be a good upgrade...for about 2000 bucks maybe it would be worthwhile. I wonder how many RWHP I will get upgrading to that and a Lund tune. I"m already worried about traction with my current setup! Wider tires?
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Post by 07Shelby500 on 9/15/2011, 4:20 pm

Wider and drag radials

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Post by BMMC1 on 9/15/2011, 4:29 pm

I waiting for them to make tires out of VHT.

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Post by Shelby10' on 9/15/2011, 5:52 pm

Corepuncher wrote:hmm, since I found 1 used supecharger...I am now wondering if there is a common place people go to sell their used superchargers...maybe I could even get a better one at a good price?

The 2.3L TVS seems to be a good upgrade...for about 2000 bucks maybe it would be worthwhile. I wonder how many RWHP I will get upgrading to that and a Lund tune. I"m already worried about traction with my current setup! Wider tires?

TVS will put you around 650rwhp give or take. More than enough!! lol!

Only issue is that it is black and has the appearance of a stock blower when you pop the hood. The Kenne Bell and Whipple are very pronounced and not mistaken for a stocker.

If the 2013 GT500 comes factory with a TVS then you may see the price drop even further on used or take off TVS units.

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/18/2011, 10:03 pm

I am tempted to just withdraw my 2000 I have, go to the casino and throw it down on red or black at the roulette table. If i lose, I keep my car how it is. If I win, I get a new supercharger. 50/50 shot. I'm not even a gambler and don't frequent casinos...I hate them actually. But it would make my decision a lot easier if I had either 0 or 4000.
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Post by ARMORINE on 9/18/2011, 10:39 pm

just get the supercharger. you wont regret it
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Post by shodown on 9/18/2011, 11:29 pm

Corepuncher wrote:I am tempted to just withdraw my 2000 I have, go to the casino and throw it down on red or black at the roulette table. If i lose, I keep my car how it is. If I win, I get a new supercharger. 50/50 shot. I'm not even a gambler and don't frequent casinos...I hate them actually. But it would make my decision a lot easier if I had either 0 or 4000.

How about you give me your money instead, and i will let you play my PS3 for about 30 mins and give you 1500 back thumbsup

You have no odds of winning, but you cant lose as much that way!
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Post by Vandy9303 on 9/20/2011, 3:48 pm

Leonard 95 wrote:It only voids warranty if it's causing the problem! The only problem I have is traction at 70mph! Just buy it, get Lund tune and be done with it.

how are Lund tunes? would you go lund or Mr. VMP justin?
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Post by Shelby10' on 9/20/2011, 5:14 pm

LUND hands down. Ive had a VMP tune and detonated like crazy. Lund tune seemed to be stronger and no detonation. David McKay had a VMP tune as well...he dynod 100rwhp less than what he should have had, Justin wanted to argue with him that it was mechanical. We looked over that car from top to bottom...VMP sweared it was not the tune. Dyno and datalogged showed VMPs tune only commanding 10 degrees total timing...there was the problem

Went to Kurtis at Archangel and had him write a tune for his car, low and behold Kurtis unlocked the HP that was missing.

If your going to go with a Lund tune, I would contact Van atwww.revanracing.com

If you want to stay local and get a dynotune I would go with Kurtis at Archangel Motorsports as he did a great job with Mckays GT500 and its definitely a safe tune.

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/20/2011, 6:13 pm

Good news....

I might be able to save 75% on my storm shelter! That calculates to a savings of 2300 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's FEMA money that will become available...unfortunately for my friends who already got theirs installed, they are not eligible...I found out in the nick of time!!
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Post by Shelby10' on 9/20/2011, 8:15 pm

You lucky dog!

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/20/2011, 8:21 pm

Basically, this amounts to me going to the casino, throwing down 2K on red, and hitting. Except I wont' have to pay taxes yuck yuck yuck.

I just might have to get that TVS now. TVS + Lund Tune + some way to keep tires on ground. That last part will be tough. I want 315's on the back but would need a whole new set of rims. ugh.
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Post by Shelby10' on 9/20/2011, 8:36 pm

You can get away with a smaller tire than a 315, 305 maybe?(But remember 305 is not recommended for your stock wheels I believe) Or just stay with the stock size tire and go stickier, might possibly need a Drag Radial for daily use if so.

Mickey Thompson ET Streets, Nitto 555r, Nitto Invo, etc

Expect only 8k to 10k miles out of these tires

Im no tire expert though, but with the kind of power you will have...tires will be an issue. Maybe someone with a little more experience running High HP can chime in. I know Leonard was running MT ET Streets on his TVS powered ride

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/20/2011, 9:16 pm

I still might just do tune and pulley + OD pulley. Then I could get the MGW shifter, and, possibly upgrade to Alcoa Supersnakes. Wouldn't a wider rear tire help as much or more than upgraded control arms?
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Post by Shelby10' on 9/20/2011, 9:21 pm

Corepuncher wrote:I still might just do tune and pulley + OD pulley. Then I could get the MGW shifter, and, possibly upgrade to Alcoa Supersnakes. Wouldn't a wider rear tire help as much or more than upgraded control arms?

Wider tires would help greatly, but your still going to need lower control arms if you want to take full advantage of the new found traction

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/20/2011, 9:29 pm

This is the best price I could find on the alcoas:

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/products/05-Mustang-Alcoa-Super-Snake-Wheels

I'm thinking 9" in front, 10" in rear. Since stock we have 265's in front and 285's in rear on 9.5...would we then do maybe 245 or 255 in front, and maybe 305-315 in rear?

I would be more apt to do this if I could line up someone who would want to buy my stock SVT Rims...
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Post by Corepuncher on 9/20/2011, 9:42 pm

Do you think running a 2.59 pulley + 10 or 15% overdrive balancer will result in overheating our stock supercharger? Since it runs less efficient than the TVS anyway. I don't know...I think I would feel more comfortable putting overdrive onto the TVS, since I assume it runs cooler. I could just see it...I open my hood and my stock blower is glowing red!

More power is always more fun, but I have to keep in mind that this is my everyday driving car as well. I need to balance fun factor vs. at least a LITTLE bit of practicality :-) I"m not building an all out race car here...just fun on the streets.

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/20/2011, 11:11 pm

I'm checking with Van about what the implications are of getting this SC. It's a 2.3 liter TVS, looks about new. This guy is asking 2200. I can't find anything less than 3000 in this SC, so seems like a good deal. I THOUGHT I had a link to one for 2750 or so...but seem to have misplaced it.

Like you guys say, get this and I'm done basically with power. I think I might just do it. Then for grip, I'll probably just try a different tire once these wear out.

This is gonna add up bigtime:

$2200 TVS Supercharger
$600 72 mm TB ( I assume I'll need a new one)
$450 Tuner and Lund Tune
$650 10% Overdrive Pulley (Optional I suppose...)
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$3250 with no overdrive, $3900 with overdrive.

You know, really, for all that it isn't too bad. But it's still a huge chunka-change just to have excess. But hey, nothing like embarrassing a Corvette!!! Priceless!

Am I forgetting anything? I figured I'd address suspension and other things as they arise. Maybe lower control arms for sure. Oh...can the stock driveshaft handle all that power?
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Post by Shelby10' on 9/20/2011, 11:47 pm

1) Dont think you need the throttle body as the TVS pushes plenty of power without a larger one.

2) You dont need or want the 10% overdrive pulley if you go TVS as again, you will have plenty of power already.

I have been told If you do go larger on the throttle body you will absolutely need fuel upgrades. Also I conferred with a someone that has the TVS as well and told me the stock injectors work "ok" with just the TVS swap, BUT a boost-a-pump is absolutely recommended for a safety net.

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Post by Corepuncher on 9/21/2011, 12:19 am

Thanks for your input, as always!

Shelby10' wrote:1) Dont think you need the throttle body as the TVS pushes plenty of power without a larger one.

2) You dont need or want the 10% overdrive pulley if you go TVS as again, you will have plenty of power already.

But I thought we wanted more power applause
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Post by Leonard 95 on 9/21/2011, 2:11 am

I had no fuel upgrades with my tvs and 66 l&m tb, seemed to work great that way. Even with stock t/b and tvs with 2.6 pulley it was stupid fast. More than enough for most normal people.
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Post by Corepuncher on 9/28/2011, 2:22 am

The guy sold his 2300 dollar used TVS. I guess I missed out on that one.

Van says he will sell me a brand new Ford TVS supercharger only for 2900 shipped...but it has a 3" pulley on it and I would want the smaller one, so it would be a pulley kit on top of 2900 + another 450 for tuner and tune. Ouch.

Good grief. Now maybe I"m back to square one, doing only pulley kit and tune on my stock blower. 670 for that kit + tune. Then I could get MGW shifter and carbon filber rockers and splitter! I would consider the alum. driveshaft but I hear horror stories about balancing and such.
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Post by Corepuncher on 9/28/2011, 6:29 am

Ok, so I have developed two packages. Package A is less power but look at all the things I can get. Package B is ton of power but nothing else.

If you had $3600 what would you do with it? Something like package A or would you just do package B and wait a long time to get other stuff?

I"m leaning towards package A. Although I would like the giant power of the new TVS, a lot of other things would "suffer". But man, I'd sure like that TVS! The decision would have been
easier if I still had access to that 2300 dollar used one.

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Post by shodown on 9/28/2011, 9:03 am

I dont own a GT500 so just my opinion, but I would stick with option A but ditch the driveshaft. I dont think anyone on here pulley or TVS has one??? Could be wrong, but thats 700 dollars of better mods like the Revan HE with fans like Jarrod has. Im sure he would agree thats a better mod than a driveshaft.

But again it comes down to what you want. You got to ask yourself... Do i want a sleeper(B) or one that stands out a bit and has more power and better looks(A)

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