Mis-badging?
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Anybody hate mis-badging?
Mis-badging?
Anybody hate mis-badging?
Ex: are anything that pertains to one Mustang model having another model's parts on it. Be it: wheels, emblems, shakers, duck tail spoilers, etc.
Although not that old, I have an old school train of thought. I cannot stand any form of mis-badging. You will never catch my Mach with any other models' parts on it.
Thoughts? Opinions?
Ex: are anything that pertains to one Mustang model having another model's parts on it. Be it: wheels, emblems, shakers, duck tail spoilers, etc.
Although not that old, I have an old school train of thought. I cannot stand any form of mis-badging. You will never catch my Mach with any other models' parts on it.
Thoughts? Opinions?
OSUALUM78- BMMC Junkie
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Re: Mis-badging?
i say your paying for it put what ever floats your boat on it except the antenna that shou;d stay stock (i say that cuz i havent got around to changing it YET
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Re: Mis-badging?
Yea I hate cars that have roush stuff all over it when it's not and also has a shaker hood, what a poser that jrod is... ;)
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Re: Mis-badging?
If they dont make the car faster ya dont need em.
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Re: Mis-badging?
I am of the opinion that if you have a normal Mustang be it a GT or a V6 do whatever floats your boat to it. But when it comes to originals like your Mach1, or a Bullitt or going back further I have had a couple of 1979 Indy Pace cars.. Things like that should be left original and not altered too much because they are a historic piece of iron that should be taken care of. But again if you guy a standard GT or V6 its a blank canvas in my opinion. I may put Bullitt stuff on my GT but it will never be a bullitt. I know that and others know that. But I like the way the bullitt looks and since the bullitt I was buying fell through I figured I would just make one..
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Re: Mis-badging?
So what about a GT500? Would you call that a "historic piece of iron" or are we talking KR, Super Snake or whatever? BTW, the plans for my car will be performance enhancing and I have no plans for visual changes that I can think of....
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Blair, I would consider your car the type that you would definately want to leave looking like a GT500. If I had it I might make a few small visual enhancements but not a major overhaul. Now performance enhancements are fair game.. lol..
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Re: Mis-badging?
I agree with Brents assessment. If its already a Cobra or Mach or Saleen or GT500..it should stay relatively the same on the exterior.
But GTs have always and will always be blank canvasas. Since the first production mustang came out people have been modifiying and customizing their paticular ride to their liking. If they want to put Mach 1 parts on it...so be it...if they want to put a cobra bumper on a GT...than so be it.
I try not to put to much thought into what other people do to "Their" car.
I know some get hot and bothered and hate seeing "clones" but thats more of a personal problem than an "actual" problem.
I myself couldnt afford a Roush after I gradualted...for some reason that $50,000 price tag back in 05 06 wasnt tempting. So I purchased my GT and spent a fraction of the cost making it identicle in most every way.
Hell mine down the track is faster than most Superchared Stage 3s and 427r's.
So in summary...its fine..why? because its its "their" car. My opinion of course...an everyone is welcome to theirs
Oh and my car is sexy as sin
But GTs have always and will always be blank canvasas. Since the first production mustang came out people have been modifiying and customizing their paticular ride to their liking. If they want to put Mach 1 parts on it...so be it...if they want to put a cobra bumper on a GT...than so be it.
I try not to put to much thought into what other people do to "Their" car.
I know some get hot and bothered and hate seeing "clones" but thats more of a personal problem than an "actual" problem.
I myself couldnt afford a Roush after I gradualted...for some reason that $50,000 price tag back in 05 06 wasnt tempting. So I purchased my GT and spent a fraction of the cost making it identicle in most every way.
Hell mine down the track is faster than most Superchared Stage 3s and 427r's.
So in summary...its fine..why? because its its "their" car. My opinion of course...an everyone is welcome to theirs
Oh and my car is sexy as sin
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Re: Mis-badging?
"Now performance enhancements are fair game.. lol.."
Yeah and that's the direction I'm headed even though it already scares the shit out of me much of the time stock!
Yeah and that's the direction I'm headed even though it already scares the shit out of me much of the time stock!
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Re: Mis-badging?
Oldokie wrote:"Now performance enhancements are fair game.. lol.."
Yeah and that's the direction I'm headed even though it already scares the shit out of me much of the time stock!
Perf enhancements will never be discouraeged!!!!!
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Re: Mis-badging?
Yeah, I am sure that I am a minority, but that's what makes me unique like everyone else
And my post wasn't referring to whether or not if one would alter the car for given model.
My post was a question that some got and some didn't: are you a fan, or can you tolerate some, or do you completely disagree with mis-badging, which really only can be a non-performance mod. Yeah I can get 03/04 Cobra internals and build my bottom end or put in a T56, but that doesn't "display" my Mach to the public while driving as that model.
Ex: A GT500 putting on Ford GT wheels, or a S197 having Bullitt wheels on it, or people that don't have Roush's or Saleen's, putting on those parts that come on a Roush or Saleen, or putting a Lambo door kit on cars that aren't Lambos; or common with Machers, change out the front clip to an 03/04 Cobra style or 01 Cobra style and/or changing out the side skirts to 03/04 Cobra style, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for customizing your car to whatever floats your boat. You bought it or are paying on it, not me, so do what you want; but I take it a offensive that My Mach had only around 17,000 total built Machs for both new gen years, and people get shakers put on their model that didn't come with them from the factory; I would also take offense if I had paid for a Saleen or Roush or Lambo or whatever, and people would would customize their non model like it. I look at it that: I paid for this, if you wanted it, you should have paid for this vehicle to have this too. There are too many options out there to customize that aren't going with a different model parts on your car everyone can still choose and be different.
But in sum, I guess that's what makes this country great. Freedom of choice
And my post wasn't referring to whether or not if one would alter the car for given model.
My post was a question that some got and some didn't: are you a fan, or can you tolerate some, or do you completely disagree with mis-badging, which really only can be a non-performance mod. Yeah I can get 03/04 Cobra internals and build my bottom end or put in a T56, but that doesn't "display" my Mach to the public while driving as that model.
Ex: A GT500 putting on Ford GT wheels, or a S197 having Bullitt wheels on it, or people that don't have Roush's or Saleen's, putting on those parts that come on a Roush or Saleen, or putting a Lambo door kit on cars that aren't Lambos; or common with Machers, change out the front clip to an 03/04 Cobra style or 01 Cobra style and/or changing out the side skirts to 03/04 Cobra style, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for customizing your car to whatever floats your boat. You bought it or are paying on it, not me, so do what you want; but I take it a offensive that My Mach had only around 17,000 total built Machs for both new gen years, and people get shakers put on their model that didn't come with them from the factory; I would also take offense if I had paid for a Saleen or Roush or Lambo or whatever, and people would would customize their non model like it. I look at it that: I paid for this, if you wanted it, you should have paid for this vehicle to have this too. There are too many options out there to customize that aren't going with a different model parts on your car everyone can still choose and be different.
But in sum, I guess that's what makes this country great. Freedom of choice
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OSUALUM78- BMMC Junkie
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Re: Mis-badging?
Grabber07' wrote:Oldokie wrote:"Now performance enhancements are fair game.. lol.."
Yeah and that's the direction I'm headed even though it already scares the shit out of me much of the time stock!
Perf enhancements will never be discouraeged!!!!!
A guy with a Honda told me type "R" stickers add +10fwhp/fwt (in our case +10rwhp/rwt)
OSUALUM78- BMMC Junkie
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Re: Mis-badging?
i'll fill you all in on my shelby rule, if i can;t put the shit back into the horse i DONT need it. trnaslation if i can;t return my vehicle to its original state i dont need it
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ARMORINE wrote:i'll fill you all in on my shelby rule, if i can;t put the shit back into the horse i DONT need it. trnaslation if i can;t return my vehicle to its original state i dont need it
yeah, I've kept all my factory parts I've taken off, down to the factory purpleish/greyish tire valve caps.
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Re: Mis-badging?
And I completely agree with you about being upset that you paid for the real thing.....and someone takes a GT and turns it into a mach 1 that looks exactly like it for less money, but isnt officialy "real"
You pay for exclusivity. But its kinda like sticking your nose up in the air and being "snooty" (not attacking you..making a general statement about people in general). I paid for my limited edition mustang and now this clown has one that looks exactly like mine but his isnt real...nor did he pay the pricetag I paid to have this exclusive car.
That clone will never effect the rarity of your car, so my thought is...why care?
Yours is real...his isnt. Shouldnt that be enough?
Not everyone can afford what they want...for me a Roush was $50,000. I paid half that and have a car that handles just as well....looks identicle....and is faster. I can see someone could possibly get pissed that he paid $25 grand more to have the exlusivity of a "real" Roush...but in the end....the guy thats pissed is Butt sore and Im smiling
Slap a Whipple on mine...and no Stage 3 can touch me. Thats how I look at it at least.
In the end...he has the real deal...and in 30 years...his will be worth and respected more...so all feelings aside it shouldnt matter I think.
But like you said...two each his own.
You pay for exclusivity. But its kinda like sticking your nose up in the air and being "snooty" (not attacking you..making a general statement about people in general). I paid for my limited edition mustang and now this clown has one that looks exactly like mine but his isnt real...nor did he pay the pricetag I paid to have this exclusive car.
That clone will never effect the rarity of your car, so my thought is...why care?
Yours is real...his isnt. Shouldnt that be enough?
Not everyone can afford what they want...for me a Roush was $50,000. I paid half that and have a car that handles just as well....looks identicle....and is faster. I can see someone could possibly get pissed that he paid $25 grand more to have the exlusivity of a "real" Roush...but in the end....the guy thats pissed is Butt sore and Im smiling
Slap a Whipple on mine...and no Stage 3 can touch me. Thats how I look at it at least.
In the end...he has the real deal...and in 30 years...his will be worth and respected more...so all feelings aside it shouldnt matter I think.
But like you said...two each his own.
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Re: Mis-badging?
Grabber07' wrote:And I completely agree with you about being upset that you paid for the real thing.....and someone takes a GT and turns it into a mach 1 that looks exactly like it for less money, but isnt officialy "real"
You pay for exclusivity. But its kinda like sticking your nose up in the air and being "snooty" (not attacking you..making a general statement about people in general). I paid for my limited edition mustang and now this clown has one that looks exactly like mine but his isnt real...nor did he pay the pricetag I paid to have this exclusive car.
That clone will never effect the rarity of your car, so my thought is...why care?
Yours is real...his isnt. Shouldnt that be enough?
Not everyone can afford what they want...for me a Roush was $50,000. I paid half that and have a car that handles just as well....looks identicle....and is faster. I can see someone could possibly get pissed that he paid $25 grand more to have the exlusivity of a "real" Roush...but in the end....the guy thats pissed is Butt sore and Im smiling
Slap a Whipple on mine...and no Stage 3 can touch me. Thats how I look at it at least.
In the end...he has the real deal...and in 30 years...his will be worth and respected more...so all feelings aside it shouldnt matter I think.
But like you said...two each his own.
If you take the general public, that doesn't know jack about Mustangs like we do (for example, at a glance I can look at any 01-04 Mustang and determine exactly what model it really is, and I'm sure you can do that with the S197 models), they look at any Mustang as the same. It's a Mustang. Most can tell/try to the difference between fast and slow by exhaust loudness (hence why I think ricers will put fart cans on even if their import isn't modded). Ex: you don't know how many times I've been asked or told that's a nice Gt, or that's a nice Cobra, or is that a supercharger sticking out of your hood?
If I owned a Vette, I'd see it as snooty, but I drive a Mustang and I'm one of the nicest people out there. I don't like it while driving when I see another Mustanger I'll give a nod or wave and that driver doesn't give a head nod or wave of hello back.
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Re: Mis-badging?
MrClark wrote:so that would mean replacing the factory stereo is a no no as well.....
not with another model Mustangs head unit or speakers IMO, not the that would really make sense to me either
but that's just me, and I am sure alot of you would want to me for that opinion
you have your car and do what you want, and I have mine
all is well
I just wouldn't do some mods that some do to their cars
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Re: Mis-badging?
I like mods and clones.I take it as a form of flattery
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Re: Mis-badging?
what about putting a cobra R wing on the back of a '99 cobra.... Ive seen that.... made me puke.... just disgusting... like you said... to someone that knows nothing about these cars.... it could have been an aftermarket wing for a minivan
Re: Mis-badging?
carcrazy53 wrote:I like mods and clones.I take it as a form of flattery
yeah, I also see it as flattery as well... somehow is my crazy head
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MrClark wrote:what about putting a cobra R wing on the back of a '99 cobra.... Ive seen that.... made me puke.... just disgusting... like you said... to someone that knows nothing about these cars.... it could have been an aftermarket wing for a minivan
ewwwwww
but I'd love to have an R
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any the most messed up thing about it is, I'd love the look of having 03/04 Cobra side skirts on, and I love the look of the 99/01 front clips, etc., but still would never do it.
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Yeah,thats the problem having a special make or model.If you jack with them you hurt it's value.I had the money for a roush or a shelby,but bought a GT so i could have some fun.I have had some good orginal cars but didn't really enjoy them.To afraid it might rain,hail,rock chips,ect.
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Personally, I don't think I have ever altered the cosmetics of any car I have owned. I have messed with performance parts. I'm not particularly fond of the GT 500 wheels, but I don't think that I would change them unless there was some advantage to do so (like taller or wider tires etc.).
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This thread was aimed at me...wasn't it Zack?
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Re: Mis-badging?
I think that it is kind of selfish to think that someone cant make a car look like an expesive car if it is done right. Like the roush for instense. If you put roush parts on the car and it looks exactly like one as if roush did it themselves then who cares. All your really talking about is what does the VIN number say when you enter it. I think that if someone has a problem with it that is selfish.. That is like GT 500 owners hating people who waited to buy one and paid 40,000 for one when they them selves bought one when they first came out and they payed 70,000. Same car but less money.. Yes they are both GT 500's and not clones but you get my point. Some people cant afford the reall deal but it is there dream to own it and what your saying is if you cant afford it then settle for the average mustang because it is not fair to the people who paid good money for it... Also it sounds as if you are upset that the average joe that doesnt know if it is real or not may mistake the fake for a real one and think that that person paid good money for that car when they didnt. Just seems to me that there are to many people that are to materialistic and care what things cost. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.
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05SatinGT wrote:I think that it is kind of selfish to think that someone cant make a car look like an expesive car if it is done right. Like the roush for instense. If you put roush parts on the car and it looks exactly like one as if roush did it themselves then who cares. All your really talking about is what does the VIN number say when you enter it. I think that if someone has a problem with it that is selfish.. That is like GT 500 owners hating people who waited to buy one and paid 40,000 for one when they them selves bought one when they first came out and they payed 70,000. Same car but less money.. Yes they are both GT 500's and not clones but you get my point. Some people cant afford the reall deal but it is there dream to own it and what your saying is if you cant afford it then settle for the average mustang because it is not fair to the people who paid good money for it... Also it sounds as if you are upset that the average joe that doesnt know if it is real or not may mistake the fake for a real one and think that that person paid good money for that car when they didnt. Just seems to me that there are to many people that are to materialistic and care what things cost. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.
Well said! I say do what "you" want to "your" car!
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Re: Mis-badging?
Yea, don't matter to me, your money, spend it how you want. It you want a foush, go make one, you want a fobra, go make one, I could give 2 shits.
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