Why did we drop Archangel as a sponsor?

I was actually there the past two days and was on my way back when Chris (lxhatch302) saw me coming off the highway.

Kurtis and I spoke a little but was kind of confused about the whole thing. If this isn't the right spot for this, someone PM me and tell me if you don't mind (Paul, David, Jarrod) or anyone. If not, it's no big deal just kinda curious honestly.

Thanks!

he ate my last cookie

Joshua wrote:he ate my last cookie

He ate yours too?


Never had any work done by him, but I've been in his shop and spoke with him a couple of times. He seems like a real good guy, but he sure did have alot of projects going on.

Kurtis is a great guy and is a great tuner. That is not and has never been in question. The problems are with the lack of customer service. We as a club don't just take money from business' for sponsorship and walk away. We want there to be a relationship between the club and the sponsor. We send business to the sponsors and put our good name as a backer to the sponsors ability to produce results. With Archangel we sent many people that way and had about a 99% feedback of the same thing. They could never make contact by phone or phone calls were never returned. So after taking in all the complaints we felt it was best to remove the association and not ask for sponsorship. This doesn't mean that we have any ill feelings toward Archangel or Kurtis it simply means wwe chose not to use his establishment as a sponsor for the reasons listed above. Many people have gone to Archangel with great results. We wish Kurtis and his business all the best.

david you ever thought about running for office.
J/K well put

1 fast 8 wrote:david you ever thought about running for office.
J/K well put

Maybe he can hire Monica Lewinsky as a intern!


Upgrade anything while you where there Chris, spill the beans fool! :)

Meh, just stating the facts.

DBLDARE wrote:Kurtis is a great guy and is a great tuner. That is not and has never been in question. The problems are with the lack of customer service. We as a club don't just take money from business' for sponsorship and walk away. We want there to be a relationship between the club and the sponsor. We send business to the sponsors and put our good name as a backer to the sponsors ability to produce results. With Archangel we sent many people that way and had about a 99% feedback of the same thing. They could never make contact by phone or phone calls were never returned. So after taking in all the complaints we felt it was best to remove the association and not ask for sponsorship. This doesn't mean that we have any ill feelings toward Archangel or Kurtis it simply means wwe chose not to use his establishment as a sponsor for the reasons listed above. Many people have gone to Archangel with great results. We wish Kurtis and his business all the best.

Good deal, just wanted some info about it. Thanks David.

Leonard 95 wrote:

1 fast 8 wrote:david you ever thought about running for office.
J/K well put

Maybe he can hire Monica Lewinsky as a intern!


Upgrade anything while you where there Chris, spill the beans fool! :)

I did buy something from him and since you asked, 2 Letters, KB

Tims2002gt wrote:

Joshua wrote:he ate my last cookie

He ate yours too?


Never had any work done by him, but I've been in his shop and spoke with him a couple of times. He seems like a real good guy, but he sure did have alot of projects going on.

+1. He had so many Cobras/Mustangs/Lightnings that I don't think there was room for even 1 more car in there.

SVT03Chris wrote:

Leonard 95 wrote:

1 fast 8 wrote:david you ever thought about running for office.
J/K well put

Maybe he can hire Monica Lewinsky as a intern!


Upgrade anything while you where there Chris, spill the beans fool! :)

I did buy something from him and since you asked, 2 Letters, KB

Got to back license plate somehow! :)

^ Werd and so I can hang with you haha

SVT03Chris wrote:^ Werd and so I can hang with you haha

I am the least of your worries, going with 2.2 or the bigger one?

2.2l. The Screamer!

Good luck trying to get that to ground even with 335's! :)

before deciding to wait on the sc'er till last i was looking at the kb 2.8 for mine. why's the smaller one going on.

In the world of the 03/04 Cobra the 2.2l is "the" supercharger to have if you want the loud whine basically. Yet it still puts out about the same power as the 2.6 so many people love it.

Few examples of the 2.2l Scream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7zjyljYQU&feature=channel_page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87n8jhVO784&feature=channel_page

SVT03Chris wrote:In the world of the 03/04 Cobra the 2.2l is "the" supercharger to have if you want the loud whine basically. Yet it still puts out about the same power as the 2.6 so many people love it.

I want a ride after the install. I dont believe you that the KB has a whine to it hehe

Grabber07' wrote:

SVT03Chris wrote:In the world of the 03/04 Cobra the 2.2l is "the" supercharger to have if you want the loud whine basically. Yet it still puts out about the same power as the 2.6 so many people love it.

I want a ride after the install. I dont believe you that the KB has a whine to it hehe

For sure Jarrod.

SVT03Chris wrote:

Grabber07' wrote:

SVT03Chris wrote:In the world of the 03/04 Cobra the 2.2l is "the" supercharger to have if you want the loud whine basically. Yet it still puts out about the same power as the 2.6 so many people love it.

I want a ride after the install. I dont believe you that the KB has a whine to it hehe

For sure Jarrod.

All I ask is that you dont kill yourself in that car. Please be safe

Chris...idk what to say but i wanna ride...

I understand everyone had a good time at the recent dyno day, but has anyone dropped their vehicle off for work at archangels lately? I mean left it unsupervised by the owner to be workEd on?

The reason I ask is 5 years or so ago when this club forum was still an email list I asked on it where I could get a roll bar put in my convertible. Someone suggested kurtis and someone else. Kurt quoted me 800$ for labor to install roll bars and gears (I already had the parts). Since he said he could get to it right away, the other guy couldn't, I went with kurtis.

4 months and many phone calls after dropping off the parts, he met me with the car downtown the night prior to my leaving for an army nco school for a month. He wanted close to three times what he had quoted me. I gave him 800 since it was all I brought and told him I'd pay the rest when I got back from school. The next day while driving to south Carolina the gears shot out and I had to have it towed back to OKC where a dealership put new 410s in.

So is archangel back as a sponsor, or what

I'm not familiar with the transaction that occurred between you and Archangel, nor will I speculate. I suggest any complaints or issues be handled strictly between you and them and and not on this forum.

To answer your question , yes. Archangel is a sponsor of BMMC.

Archangel is back on as a club sponsor. We had backed out a few years ago because of stories like yours. However, that being said; there have been many improvements on the part of Kurtis and his company since then. The decision was made to take them on as a sponsor and let them have a opportunity to repair some of the issues from before. I believe Kurtis to be a very honest fair individual and am confident that if you go ask him about your situation from years back that he would find a way to make it right with you. If you need further assistance please send me a PM.

I should have mentioned he asked for the receipt from the dealership. I never got back to him.

I have a friend here in OKC that sent his GT500 to Shelby for the Super Snake package. It was gone for months and when it arrived back at his house last week the car was filthy, swirls in the paint and fisheyes in the new KR hood. They are reloading back on the hauler and it is going back.

Everytime I deal with a vendor I think my problems stem from not picking a good partner but sadly all vendors are the same, your results may vary based on 100 different variables.

Most people that I have seen that just brag and brag about a vendor are usually somehow vested with them. There car is either in the garage or they are trying to build a relationship and hope throwing out a good word helps them in the pecking order.

KevinGT wrote:I have a friend here in OKC that sent his GT500 to Shelby for the Super Snake package. It was gone for months and when it arrived back at his house last week the car was filthy, swirls in the paint and fisheyes in the new KR hood. They are reloading back on the hauler and it is going back.

Everytime I deal with a vendor I think my problems stem from not picking a good partner but sadly all vendors are the same, your results may vary based on 100 different variables.

Most people that I have seen that just brag and brag about a vendor are usually somehow vested with them. There car is either in the garage or they are trying to build a relationship and hope throwing out a good word helps them in the pecking order.

Tell us how you really feel.

KevinGT wrote:I have a friend here in OKC that sent his GT500 to Shelby for the Super Snake package. It was gone for months and when it arrived back at his house last week the car was filthy, swirls in the paint and fisheyes in the new KR hood. They are reloading back on the hauler and it is going back.

Everytime I deal with a vendor I think my problems stem from not picking a good partner but sadly all vendors are the same, your results may vary based on 100 different variables.

Most people that I have seen that just brag and brag about a vendor are usually somehow vested with them. There car is either in the garage or they are trying to build a relationship and hope throwing out a good word helps them in the pecking order.

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