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suspension question
when i bought my shelby, i was going back and forth between a 427r and the 500. the big thing that kept pulling me to the 427r was the handling. what the wife pointed out was i can put the suspension on the shelby but i cant make the 427r a shelby. anyway here is my question...
as far as suspention goes i can order a roush stage 3 set up and bolt in on the car, but its also made for the weight of the 4.6 not the 5.4...... so is there a better set up that has been proven on these cars? i know it is in need of a upper/lower control arm upgrade but as fas as spings/dampners, front/rear sways, all the rest. im not too worried about gettin more power now, id just really like to get it to handle like or better than my 03 did? any thoughts?
as far as suspention goes i can order a roush stage 3 set up and bolt in on the car, but its also made for the weight of the 4.6 not the 5.4...... so is there a better set up that has been proven on these cars? i know it is in need of a upper/lower control arm upgrade but as fas as spings/dampners, front/rear sways, all the rest. im not too worried about gettin more power now, id just really like to get it to handle like or better than my 03 did? any thoughts?
Vandy9303- BMMC Junkie
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Car Type : 2009 Shelby GT500
First Name : Vandy
Registration date : 2010-06-02
Re: suspension question
I just ordered some ford racing springs for mine yesterday. My plan is a overall performer I'm also planning to add an adjustable panard bar. I've already changed my LCA's with some heave duty units from BMR. The upper is next. After that the only other item I may add is some D Spec shocks all around. I can't imagine needing too much more than that. Tires I suppose would be the best investment for track duty if I was planning to road race at Hallett or similar.
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
If you really want a rundown of items to make it handle better I'd ask Jeff (Sprint200) as he has the most seat time racing at Hallett in a GT500
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
Also I was just looking at some LCA's. I was looking at shelby lcs'a about $139. Add $50 if you want them adjustable. Also the LCA relocation brackets? Worth a damn or what's the point of them? If you get them do you need the adjustables?
Vandy9303- BMMC Junkie
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Re: suspension question
The relocation brackets relocate the geometry of the lca after the car has been lowered from stock. Basically the lca goes from a horizontal to slight rearward decline to a forward decline after lowering. The bracket corrects the arm back to a more rearward decline.
The lca can be solid but an adjustable upper is good for adjusting pinion angle which also changes some after lowering. (depends on how much you lower the car)
The lca can be solid but an adjustable upper is good for adjusting pinion angle which also changes some after lowering. (depends on how much you lower the car)
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
Vandy, If you want the best suspension available for the GT500 then go with a Griggs setup...like a GR40. It requires a little welding, but nothing beats Griggs in handling. Oh and it's expensive as hell too. You could do what I'm gonna end up doing is just buy the Ford Racing '07-09 SVT handling package, then make sure you also get an adjustable pan hard bar. Really the Ford racing kit should be more than enough for ya. If you're on a road course then nothing beats Griggs. I don't think Roush can come close. It's all in how much you want to spend.. :)
ShelbyJosh'09- BMMC Enthusiast
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Re: suspension question
Vandy Josh is spot on....the Griggs setup is awesome, but your def going to pay for perfection. Other GT500 owners go with the FR3 suspension....it has proven to do well
M-2007-FR3SVT*
Make your SVT Mustang a corner carving sidewinder with the added performance of the FR3 Handling Pack
Uniquely tuned exclusively to fit 2007-08 SVT Mustang Coupe
-Handling Pack includes Dampers (M-18000-C), Lowering springs (M-5300-L), Anti-roll bar kit (M-5490-B) and Strut Tower Brace (M-20201-C)
-All components are designed to work together as a package
-Lowers car approximately 1.250"
-Dampers are adjustable and manufactured by Dynamic Suspensions.
(the same company that makes dampers for the FR500C race car)
M-2007-FR3SVT*
Make your SVT Mustang a corner carving sidewinder with the added performance of the FR3 Handling Pack
Uniquely tuned exclusively to fit 2007-08 SVT Mustang Coupe
-Handling Pack includes Dampers (M-18000-C), Lowering springs (M-5300-L), Anti-roll bar kit (M-5490-B) and Strut Tower Brace (M-20201-C)
-All components are designed to work together as a package
-Lowers car approximately 1.250"
-Dampers are adjustable and manufactured by Dynamic Suspensions.
(the same company that makes dampers for the FR500C race car)
Shelby10'- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
For everyday driving I would stick to something simple, something like the griggs is probably not gonna be fun to drive all the time and noisy. Do the lower control arms, relocation bracket and get whatever springs you want. I would do the eibach pro kit or sportline, ford kit in my opinion isn't low enough. Then get a set a tokico d-specs which are the same ones in the ford kit but a hell of alot cheaper. This is my setup it and it drives great, I went with sportlines which is VERY LOW so be forwarned.
Leonard 95- BMMC Elite Post Pig
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Re: suspension question
Im too scared to go as low as yours Leonard. with these crap streets and all the new pot holes after the snow I'd be a nervous wreck.
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
Front splitter makes a good snow plow being that low!
Leonard 95- BMMC Elite Post Pig
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Re: suspension question
Leonard 95 wrote:Front splitter makes a good snow plow being that low!
I can't have that kind of fun or I'll be replacing the carbon fiber :(
ShelbyJosh'09- BMMC Enthusiast
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Re: suspension question
07Shelby500 wrote:Im too scared to go as low as yours Leonard. with these crap streets and all the new pot holes after the snow I'd be a nervous wreck.
The streets here will fatigue the crap out of your car. Routine maintenance will include getting your wheels aligned.
ShelbyJosh'09- BMMC Enthusiast
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Re: suspension question
X2 about Tulsa Streets....what a joke
Wonder where your tax dollars go....and when Tulsa does decide to start repaving roads...they take 10 years to finish and cause more of a problem with gravel slung on the roads, concrete dust, and travel delays.
On my way back from Chicago I got to drive on some amazing roads....other states have their crap together.
Our idea of road repair is throwing black tar gravel in the holes....
Wonder where your tax dollars go....and when Tulsa does decide to start repaving roads...they take 10 years to finish and cause more of a problem with gravel slung on the roads, concrete dust, and travel delays.
On my way back from Chicago I got to drive on some amazing roads....other states have their crap together.
Our idea of road repair is throwing black tar gravel in the holes....
Shelby10'- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
True very true, but I don't think they make a better one for my car than the Shelby American Carbon fiber splitter...it really looks good with the polished finish. I also love the splitter on the 302 laguna Seca car.amentowasso wrote:With the money you'd make clearing driveways, you could buy a better one...
ShelbyJosh'09- BMMC Enthusiast
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Re: suspension question
i agree with the roads. when i dropped the 03. i was told it was going to be about a half in the front and 3/4 in the rear. ended up being a full 2 all the way around b4 it settled. car rode like shit until i swaped dampners. wife was SOOO pissed. im not sure how ill be able to talk her into oking this one lol
Vandy9303- BMMC Junkie
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Re: suspension question
Vandy9303 wrote:i agree with the roads. when i dropped the 03. i was told it was going to be about a half in the front and 3/4 in the rear. ended up being a full 2 all the way around b4 it settled. car rode like shit until i swaped dampners. wife was SOOO pissed. im not sure how ill be able to talk her into oking this one lol
Tell her that you learned your lesson and you will absolutely make sure that the drop will be (insert drop here)
Make a lot of promises....smile a lot....and order
Thats what I do.
Shelby10'- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
Vandy, since I'm molding mine you can use it as a gauge to see if it's what you want. I'll be the ginuea pig.
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
Shelby10' wrote:
Make a lot of promises....smile a lot....and order
Thats what I do.
I just order, and dont even tell her! She rarely catches anything... until you show up with a new car 3 weeks before closing on your house
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Re: suspension question
My setup is at the bottom of my sig. Car sticks to the road like glue and corners one heck of a lot better than stock. Makes a big difference at Hallett and is not so radical that it is tough to drive on the street.
Oldokie- 2010 Challenge Winner!
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Re: suspension question
Here is a thread I made over svt on stock vs ford springs vs sportlines, may give you a guage on what you want.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/shelby-gt500-150/588359-stock-springs-vs-ford-springs-vs-eibach-sportline-springs.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/shelby-gt500-150/588359-stock-springs-vs-ford-springs-vs-eibach-sportline-springs.html
Leonard 95- BMMC Elite Post Pig
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Re: suspension question
Cool guys I appreciate all the info
Vandy9303- BMMC Junkie
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Re: suspension question
And now I have the Ford springs....
Oldokie- 2010 Challenge Winner!
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Re: suspension question
Me too!
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
I could go off roading with my ground clearance
Shelby10'- BMMC Board Member
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Re: suspension question
You could give big foot a run for it's money
07Shelby500- BMMC Board Member
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